Washington’s best possible finish is 10-6. The Redskins haven’t reached 11 wins since 1991.

“I thought we were over that,” he said, adding, “Here we are on this losing streak. And, you know, I don’t want to believe it’s culture; I really don’t. And I’m around these guys every day. But at the same time we have lost four in a row; you can’t hide from that.”

Since starting out 8-5 last season, the Bucs are 3-8. The Saints loss was their fifth straight, and the only teams in the NFL with worse records in 2017 are the winless Browns and 49ers, plus the one-win Giants. Koetter and the Giants’ Ben McAdoo ought to relate well to each other — second-year coaches given credit for quick turnarounds after questionable firings of their predecessors, with steep plunges the next year.

“We are all terribly saddened by this news of his passing,” Jones said. Too young and too soon. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family, his loved ones and all of the people who were touched by his life.”

They also were both touted as offensive gurus who aren’t living up to the hype. The ceiling for Winston was considered extremely high, in their defense, but the notion that he’s on a treadmill in Year 3 is powerful.

The fact that the defense has downright regressed this season despite the Bucs loading up on that side of the ball over the last two years in the draft and free agency doesn’t help. Neither do the well-documented kicking woes. And neither does the fact that the general manager, Jason Licht, spanned Smith’s and Koetter’s tenures.
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